#Using plogue bidule in pro tools 1st how to
#Using plogue bidule in pro tools 1st software
#Using plogue bidule in pro tools 1st code

#Using plogue bidule in pro tools 1st software

also, its a vst version 2.1 or something (not the latest 2.4) so it won't work in newer DAW software like ableton live without a wrapperĤ) download a vst to au wrapper like this one (free): note: its a vst (not an audio unit for logic) so if you want to use it in logic you need a wrapper. One can use the VST version of Plogue, to run SPEC et-al inside another DAW VST host, but then you are paying for two DAW programs.Here's the steps i followed to load it into logic:Ģ) get the database from ofki here (it will download much faster):ģ) RTFM and try it with audio hijack pro (free demo, sadly i was experiencing a lot of lag/latency but it worked) Having said that, there are a lot of other pieces we've built, beyond SPEC itself, that also asst in quality conversions, such as automatic channel to channel and track to track level normalization, that are also implemented as Plogue Plugins or groups of 'bidules'. If someone can point me to FFT/Wavelet/Phase Vocoder/etc/ software that is as or more highly optimized than what is in Plogue I'll be all over it, turning SPEC into a VST that could be used in any DAW, foobar, winamp, etc. magnitude and phase or even delta frequency. One final note, Plogue's FFT/iFFT are actually misnamed, as they are actually Phase vocoders, giving you magnitude and (absolute) frequency per bin vs. The other uniqueness I'm exploiting in Plogue is that they have a published SDK so I can make my own C++ plugins that work with the magnitude and frequency signals used by the FFT/iFFT 'bidules'. I need two FFTs and five iFFTs to make SPEC. SPEC is based on doing everything in the frequency domain, and Plogue has FFT/iFFT 'bidules' to convert to/from the time domain and their implementation not only sounds better than VSTs that do that, but also uses less CPU to do it.

#Using plogue bidule in pro tools 1st code

It's just that I haven't found any other FFT tools or source code that perform as well. I/we are not wedded to Plogue as the end all/be all of a DAW for upmixing/conversion. These are experienced guys who aren't duped easily and know a good thing when they see it. This is why I again applaud both Jon and Tim for taking the time to learn the method, and why I suggest you familiarize yourself much more before commenting further. Listening to a variety of upmixes over the years and commenting on quality is one thing, Otto, but taking an active role in seeing what you can do with SPEC is another. I'd still put my money on the guy doing SPEC. You mention Audition, and I call tell you that there's a whole lot more people behind developing at Adobe and there are developing SPEC.

#Using plogue bidule in pro tools 1st how to

In my discussions with Zeerround, it's my understanding that he would love to move beyond platforms like Plogue, but is still in the learning process of how to do so. Part of doing well here is letting go of the fact that you do not have multitracks, are working with stereo, and aim towards doing the best you possibly can with your stereo source. This is why a whole lot of SPEC is about panning, but doing so in a manner that creates more separation than past attempts at doing so. The issue is that no one really does it well enough to convince me that going back and re-attempting that will lead to better sound quality than what a good conversion with SPEC can offer. You are not the first person to think that extracting instruments from stereo is the way to go and, certainly, there are both programs like Audition and VSTs like Extra Boy Pro (among others) that do extraction and isolation. Otto: Your points reflect approaches to stereo-to-surround which have already been attempted.